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Invisible Success, Civilizations that Die or Quit and Memes We Live By; Transcript of an Interview with Daniel Quinn

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Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio   
I interviewed Daniel Quinn on April 5th, 2013.  This is part one of a two part interview. Here is a link to the audio podcast: Daniel Quinn, Author of Ishmael, on Invisible Success, Civilization and Memes We Live By 

Thanks to Don Caldarazzo   for doing the transcript.

Daniel Quinn's book, Ishmael, about a telepathic gorilla, won a Ted Turner award for book with a hopeful vision of the future. It's become a bestseller translated into many languages and I recommend it as must reading if you've never read it. This interview discusses the book AND an essay on invisible success and civilizations that die or quit-- one he wrote specifically for this interview.


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Rob Kall:   And welcome to the Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show, WNJC 1360 AM out of Washington Township, reaching metro Philly and South Jersey, sponsored  by .  Tonight, I'm very excited to have as my guest Daniel Quinn.  "Daniel Quinn (and this is from Wikipedia) is an American writer popularly described as an environmentalist, and best for known his novel Ishmael, published in 1992, which won the Turner Tomorrow Fellowship Award in 1991.  Quinn does not, however, identify himself as an environmentalist, criticizing the term for 'creating a false dichotomy that frames the environment somehow separate from human life.'"  So.  Welcome to the show, Daniel!


Daniel Quinn   Oh, I'm glad to be with you.


Rob Kall:   So tell me: that's Wikipedia's take on you.  How would you like people to think about you?


Daniel Quinn   Well that's a question I've never been able to answer, and people have tried all sorts of things.  I've been called a primitive anarchist, and, as you say, I've been called by 'environmentalist.'  I suppose the closest is "Cultural Critic," whatever in the world that might be,.


Rob Kall:   That's pretty wide and open.  That' gives you lots of room to do whatever you want.


Daniel Quinn   Yeah.


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