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Talking about Apocalypse and Why the World Doesn't End: Interview Transcript Michael Meade

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Rob Kall:   You've got a workshop coming up in Columbia Maryland on May 10th and 11th: Why the World Doesn't End, and Finding GeniusWhy the World Doesn't End is your most recent book.  I've interviewed all kinds of different people, but with you I put together some questions to get started with.  I'm going to read the list of them, and they're really different from the kinds I usually do, and I think it's because I see you as a really big picture person.  So I'm going to throw a list of questions at you, you can play with them as you like.  OK?

 

Michael Meade:   All Right.

 

Rob Kall:   What do you do?  Who are you?  What are your goals?  What is important in this world?  What are the major patterns that you see in the world?  What are the most important challenges people face?  What can we do to meaningfully make a difference?  Who are your heroes?  What is the most important story?  What story do you have for people who are seriously engaged in attempting to make the world a better place?

 

Michael Meade:   hmm.

 

Rob Kall:   (laughs)

 

Michael Meade:   It's a barrage.  Well, here's what I'll pull out of that.  To the question "What is the most important story?" my answer is: there are two important stories going on all the time, and this is like a mythological point of view.  So there's the great drama of the world, of the cosmos, that includes, now, "The planet," as we refer to the earth nowadays.  It used to be called "The Eternal Drama," and that's why I wrote the book saying Why thew World Doesn't End, because we are embedded in an eternal drama.  It's a drama because it includes the ups and downs and the inside outs of everything that happened in the world; but there's a second important story, which is the unique and individual story of human life.  So the unique story of each individual and the overall drama of the cosmos are the two most important stories.  They happen together, they're entwined together, and we are involved in both.  That's the mythological point of view.

 

Rob Kall:   OK, and why is that important?  What are the insights that we should gain from that?

 

Michael Meade:   Right now we're going through this huge transitional period.  It's a transformation as people have become more aware of the planet.  But at the same time, everybody is living through their personal drama; and modern people think, in many ways, those two things are not connected.  That's partially because we've lost touch with the old stories which carried in in them the old cosmological point of view that showed how things were interconnected. 

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