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Douglas Rushkoff-- Present Shock and Presentism: Interview Transcript

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Rob Kall: (laughs)

Douglas Rushkoff: The whole thing is science fiction. It's not real. It won't happen. They're underestimating what humanity is, and what consciousness is. They've got the medium and the message reversed. There's' no such thing. If we still believe this by the time we get there, we're just program zombies anyway. You cannot upload people; you can only upload zombies, data files. So - I wouldn't worry about it.

Rob Kall: What is the difference between what they think they can upload and what you think can't be uploaded?

Douglas Rushkoff: The same difference between a zombie and person. If they really know that, then they'd be able to do it, but they don't. It's undefinable. It's like saying "What is life? Where is God?" You know?

Rob Kall: OK. Then what is your -- go ahead.

Douglas Rushkoff: The questions are unanswerable. But I'm ready to Present Shock here myself, I've got..

Rob Kall: Yeah, you've got to go, so what's your website, and how can people find out more about you?

Douglas Rushkoff: Just go to Rushkoff.com, or ideally, buy the book Present Shock at any bookstore near you.

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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind.  Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives  one person at a time was too slow, he founded Opednews.com-- which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big)  to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization Project. 

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